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Postby Bill Whatcott » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:52 am

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Leah Hennel, Calgary Herald CALGARY, AB.: NOVEMBER 15, 2011 -- William Whatcott enters the Calgary Court Centre in Calgary, Alberta on November 15, 2011 for his trespassing at the University of Calgary verdict. (Leah Hennel, Calgary Herald) (For City story by Daryl Slade)

Judge says U of C ban on man distributing anti-gay flyer violated his rights
Edmonton anti-gay, anti-abortion protester’s trespassing conviction tossed out

By Daryl Slade, Calgary Herald
November 15, 2011 10:43 PM
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CALGARY - An Edmonton man’s charter right to freedom of expression was infringed when he was charged with trespassing for distributing anti-gay pamphlets at the University of Calgary more than three years ago, a judge has ruled.

In his written decision released on Tuesday, provincial court Judge John Bascom issued a judicial stay of the July 25, 2008, trespassing violation against William Whatcott.

An indefinite ban against Whatcott from setting foot on the campus, stemming from a similar incident on Jan. 16, 2005, when Whatcott was cited for handing out anti-abortion flyers, was also lifted.

“Preventing the peaceful distribution of leaflets that an individual attendee finds offensive does not relate to an objective that is pressing and substantial,” Bascom said in his written decision.

“It is therefore not of sufficient importance to override a constitutionally protected right. Having found the university actions in banning Mr. Whatcott is not a significant objective, it is unnecessary to move to the second part of the test, that is, the means chosen are reasonable and demonstrably justified. . . . I find that banning Mr. Whatcott is arbitrary and unfair. The means used by campus security halted Mr. Whatcott’s distribution of these flyers and violated his right of free expression. In addition, the indefinite ban for Mr. Whatcott’s actions of Jan. 16, 2005, are out of proportion.”

Dale Fedorchuk, Whatcott’s lawyer, said outside court the judge’s decision found that the Charter of Rights and Freedoms applied to the actions taken by the university in this case to ban him and issue him with a trespassing ticket.

“In so doing, the judge applied the charter to the University of Calgary, notwithstanding the Crown’s (Kristyn Stevens) argument that the university is private property to which the charter does not apply,” said Fedorchuk.

“To reach that decision, Judge Bascom concluded private entities may be subject to charter scrutiny for such actions when actions are inherently governmental.”

Whatcott said he was “very happy” with the decision.

“I see this as an important victory for social conservatives and Christians who want to express themselves,” Whatcott said outside court.

“We were at Carleton University in Ottawa a couple of weeks ago and we’ll be visiting campuses with our point of view in the near future — U of Alberta, U of Calgary, Grant MacEwan. They are all a concern to me. They are very homogenous in the professors they hire, to discriminate against speech that displays conservative Christian values.”

University of Calgary spokesman Grady Semmens said the university could not comment on the decision as it had not yet seen the document.

However, he added, “Our legal folks will review it and try to decide if anything is there that may impact our operations.”

“This is really between the police and the Crown and the defendant, because police laid the charges,” said Semmens. “The university was asked to testify in the case and we did.”

A campus security officer testified that in the 2008 incident, he received a complaint about an unknown person posting anti-gay literature without permission, saying it was offensive material.

Whatcott and his partner, whose identity is undetermined by the court, were spotted in a parking lot handing out the flyers and when confronted, they started walking away.

When asked his name, Whatcott gave him a flyer and it was confirmed he was under the ban from three years earlier. He was arrested for trespassing, handcuffed and temporarily detained.

Bascom said the 2005 ban and the 2008 violation ticket are inextricably connected and must be viewed together.

“Mr. Whatcott entered the university property with a purpose to distribute his literature to students, staff and public,” said the judge. “His activity was peaceful and presented no harm to the university structures or those who frequented the campus. Traditionally, universities have been places for the exchange of ideas.

“Although Mr. Whatcott’s pamphlet is not scholarly, freedom of speech is not limited to academic works. The concept of free expression is part of the University of Calgary philosophy . . . “

Fedorchuk had conceded previously “it was clear in 2005 the content of the flyer offended people,” but that was not the issue.

Stevens insisted the content of the flyers did not play a role in either of the incidents, although complaints led to both arrests, and the charter doesn’t apply.

She said in 2005, Whatcott did not have permission to distribute material of any kind, as the university must regulate where and when anyone hands out information in order to not disrupt learning.

As far as 2008, she added, Whatcott was asked to leave, and when he didn’t. he was arrested solely for being on the campus contrary to the ban.

Stevens said Whatcott could either have appealed his ban, asked someone else to hand out the material by following rules, or hand it out himself anywhere off campus.

“He was not legally on the property and had no legal rights to be on campus,” Stevens argued. “Mr. Whatcott could easily have complied by applying to come back at a designated time and place.

“It has to do with policy, not content. Campus security is acting as property owners to determine who can come on the property or not . . . in this case, it is a relationship between a property owner and a member of the public who is not connected to the university.”

Semmens said he could not discuss whether the university would consider an appeal until it has been thoroughly reviewed.

dslade@calgaryherald.com

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Postby Bill Whatcott » Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:18 am

I will provide a more comprehensive update on today's judgement and I will provide the judge's written decision tomorrow after I have a good night's sleep. Good night and God bless all of you! yawn1 bravo1
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Postby Doc Notgay » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:46 pm

Praise be to God. I'm happy for you and our freedom which you helped to establish Bill. blessyou
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Postby Gilles » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:48 pm

Congratulations Bill on being instrumental in securing freedom of speech in Canada.
My only concern is the twist that the media continues to follow. They indicate that you are an "anti-gay, anti-abortion protester". I support the anti-abortion as it focuses on the act. However, it focuses on you being against gay people. As a Social Conservative Christian, I certainly oppose the practice of homosexuality and the promotion, support, display, encouragement and "normalization" of homosexual practices. BUT, I do not oppose gays or homosexuals, as I am certain that as a Christian you do not hate or oppose them as people. Jesus loves homosexuals and all of us sinners and he would love them to himself and to repentance.
I know the media has a great knack of putting good people and objectives in a bad light if they choose to do so. My hope is that your materials, speech and actions will show a great love for gays, lesbians and all of those who practice other ungodly sexually deviant behaviours and that you and all Christians will love them to the Lord...something the Christian community has not done a very good job of over the years, because Christians are viewed as condemning, bigoted, self-righteous and hateful towards people who practice homosexuality. To re-iterate the old adage - "What Would Jesus Do?".....
Anyway, keep up a good and Godly fight and once again, congratulations on your tenacity, perseverance and commitment to the cause of Freedom of Speech.
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Postby evolution8 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:23 pm

Congratulations honey, am so proud of you! cheekkiss1 :pompoms:
Thank you Lord for answering our prayers! pray1
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Postby jimgilles » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:10 pm

The above post from "gilles" is not from Jim Gilles.

Great job!!!!! Can one really be too harsh in their stand against buggery and baby murder?
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Postby Bill Whatcott » Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:00 pm

Thanks for you support evolution8 and DocNotGay..... blessyou

I would like to address the concerns of our new members Gilles (a new Canadian member) and Jim Gilles (from the United States)

First of all here is the flyer I distributed at the University of Calgary: http://www.freenorthamerica.ca/viewtopi ... =16&t=3182

Folks can judge for themselves if my flyer is "hateful"

I see my flyer as strongly worded and provocative, but not hateful. In fact some homosexual activists call criticism of any aspect of their sexual practices and political activities "hate." The "hate" word is so abused and misused to bully people who disagree with leftist agendas and homosexual activism into silence, that the word is almost meaningless in the politically correct context.

Here is the context of my arrest and the trespassing charge I was acquitted of yesterday: http://www.freenorthamerica.ca/viewtopi ... =16&t=3332

Some conservative Christians are uncomfortable with my style of activism. None the less, I believe the way I conducted this fight and took on the bigoted, far left university was Scriptural. I believe conservatism is good, but sometimes conservatives are so conservative, unimaginative and fearful, they set themselves up to lose in the culture wars and when we lose children suffer, freedom suffers, and foundational Biblical truth suffers. It is possible when dealing with evil to be nicer than Jesus and when we behave in this way, we sell out what we should believe in.

"Have I not commanded you? Be strong and of good courage; do not be afraid, nor be dismayed, for the LORD your God is with you wherever you go.” Joshua 1:9
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Postby DaveLeach » Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:11 pm

Interesting, the action of the university was "essentially governmental", said the judge, so even if the university is private the same free speech rules apply as if Whatcott had acted on public property. I wonder how the judge explained that concept? My approach, were I the judge, would have been to observe that the huge taxpayers subsidies the university receives qualify it as "public property".

I don't even care if this leads to a precedent that churches can't exclude sodomites from passing out literature on church property. I would like to see Christians become so "evangelical" that they would look forward to the opportunity to go out and witness to them. They could still have them arrested for obscenity, for which they are well known.

Amazing, that the university could argue that passing out ideas in the parking lot interrupts "learning"! It would be amazing enough if they called coming into classrooms to share ideas an interruption of learning! But the parking lot?
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Postby Bill Whatcott » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:36 pm

DaveLeach wrote:Interesting, the action of the university was "essentially governmental", said the judge, so even if the university is private the same free speech rules apply as if Whatcott had acted on public property. I wonder how the judge explained that concept? My approach, were I the judge, would have been to observe that the huge taxpayers subsidies the university receives qualify it as "public property".

I don't even care if this leads to a precedent that churches can't exclude sodomites from passing out literature on church property. I would like to see Christians become so "evangelical" that they would look forward to the opportunity to go out and witness to them. They could still have them arrested for obscenity, for which they are well known.

Amazing, that the university could argue that passing out ideas in the parking lot interrupts "learning"! It would be amazing enough if they called coming into classrooms to share ideas an interruption of learning! But the parking lot?


Heck, some of what is "taught" in the classroom needs to be challenged........ :icon_rolleyes:

This academic (Darren Lund) was "Grand Marshal" of Calgary's homosexual shame parade. He has also launched a pseudo human rights complaint against a Christian pastor who wrote a letter to the editor critical of the homosexual agenda. His entire curriculum vitae seems to be race baiting, promoting sexual perversion and nothing actually constructive. Imagine how the young people are who lack critical thinking skills and undergo indoctrination from a guy like this!!!! :phew:

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Darren Lund, files human rights complaints against Christian pastors and travels around the province race baiting and trying to drum up business for kangaroo human rights commissions
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Richard Ramsey is picture left

These two academics (Pierre Tremblay and Richard Ramsey) are a real piece of work. Excerpts from their own website (which seems to be on the U of C server) says it all: http://people.ucalgary.ca/~ptrembla/gay ... .htm#inter

Excerpt from U of C website
"Fourteen year old LEE tells PETER TATCHELL about first sex, boyfriends, coming out, paedophilia, and why an age of consent of 16 won't help under-age gays like him. Lee is 14. He's been having sex with boys since the age of eight, and with men since he was 12. Lee has a serious problem. He wants a steady relationship and has been going out recently with a guy in his mid-twenties, who he met at the hairdressers. But in the eyes of the law, Lee's partner is a paedophile and Lee is a victim of child abuse.That's not, however, the way Lee sees it: "I want to have a boyfriend. It's my choice. No one's abusing me. Why should we be treated like criminals?"

Just because these guys have Masters Degrees and PhDs does not make them infallible or even credible. The promotion of homosexuality, paedophilia and race baiting is harmful to Canada and no amount of sophistry from the "learned ones" makes it right. We taxpayers have a right and indeed I would argue a moral obligation to stand up and fight these neo-Marxists. The more we oppose and expose them, the more we undermine their undeserved credibility.
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Postby evolution8 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:44 am

Thanks for sharing these links hon, they are very lengthy and I need time to read them all. :timeout:
I just wanted to welcome first our new members Gilles and Jim Gilles.
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Postby Doc Notgay » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:56 am

Pierre Tremblay and Richard Ramsey have a real sick website. They remind me of the coach in the USA who was just charged with molesting boys. puke1
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Postby Bill Whatcott » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:51 am

Doc Notgay wrote:Pierre Tremblay and Richard Ramsey have a real sick website. They remind me of the coach in the USA who was just charged with molesting boys. puke1


When one looks at all the evidence, it is clear homosexuals are more open to sexually abusing young people than heterosexuals. These academics are trying to cloak their homosexual pedophile fantasies with some sort of twisted pseudo academic respectability. The fact the U of C tolerates them and allows their institution to be associated with these pervs, certainly gives merit to my argument that my activism has a legitimate purpose on their publicly funded campus. vomit21
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Postby Bill Whatcott » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:45 am

For those who wish to conduct a careful reading of Justice Bascom's 20 page ruling, upholding my and all Canadian's right to express politically incorrect opinions on publicly funded university campuses you can go here: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... w&hl=en_US


For those who don't want to read a 20 page legal decision, this last chapter of the judgement sums up Justice Bascom's decision rather well. I think the judge exercised a very sound analysis of Canadian case law and Charter principles. I believe Justice Bascom's reasoning is very sound and well grounded in both case law and logic. I am very happy with the ruling and I do not believe an appeal by the University of Calgary would easily overturn this judgement...... respect001

[28] Preventing the peaceful distribution of leaflets that an individual attendee finds offensive
does not relate to an objective that is pressing and substantial. It is therefore not of sufficient
importance to override a constitutionally protected right. Having found the university actions in
banning Mr. Whatcott is not a significant objective, it is unnecessary to move to the second part
of the test that is, the means chosen are reasonable and demonstrably justified. However, in
considering the proportionality test I find that banning Mr. Whatcott is arbitrary and unfair. The
means used by campus security halted Mr. Whatcott's distribution of these flyers and violated
his right of free expression. In addition, the indefinite ban for Mr. Whatcott's actions of January
16,2005 are out of proportion. I find that the implementation of the Provincial Trespass
Legislation cannot be justified using a Section 1 analysis. I find that the defendant's Section
2(b) Charter rights to free expression were infringed and cannot be justified under Section 1 of
the Charter. As a result I enter a stay of proceedings on ticket A13-0406-35Z issued on July 25,
2008.

Dated at the City of Calgary, Alberta this 15th day of November, 2011.
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Postby evolution8 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:15 am

Doc Notgay wrote:Pierre Tremblay and Richard Ramsey have a real sick website. They remind me of the coach in the USA who was just charged with molesting boys. puke1


I'd rather not see it Doc. Child molesters are sick in the head. :yernuts: :eew:
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Postby evolution8 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:25 am

Thank you and bless you Justice Bascom! :bighug:
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